- You may discuss specific rolls to your class.
- Why did you chose that roll?
- What can be determined from the roll?
- Do not overreach and state your theory on how this works. (WALT SULLIVAN)
- In order to determine the rule what roll would you most like to see?
- How would this help you determine the rule?
Thursday, October 3, 2013
Petals Around a Rose Discussion
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Should we answer these questions on the blog or in our notebooks
ReplyDeleteNikki kordomenos mod7
Idk, im going to do both though.
DeleteDan N is this for mod 7?
ReplyDeleteDan N just a heads up I have it in my notebook
ReplyDeleteIn Mod 9, our first dice rolled produced a 6, 6, 4, 1, and 1. Our third roll resulted in a 6, 6, 3, 1, and 1. The only difference between the two rolls was the 3 in the first one and the 4 in the second one. The first roll had 2 roses and 0 petals. The third roll had 3 roses and 2 petals. Therefore, a 3 has 1 more rose and 2 more petals than a 4. I would most like to see a roll of all 3's. That way, we would be able to prove that every 3 had 1 rose and 2 petals.
ReplyDelete-Erin Kiernan (Mod 9)
In Mod 7, we rolled a 4,6,2,2, and a 3. There are supposedly 1 rose and 2 petals in this roll. I believe that this is specifically talking about the 3.
ReplyDeleteIn mod 7 the rolls were 6, 4, 3, 2 and 2. This is 1 rose and 2 petals. I think the roses and petals has to do with the total of all the numbers. The total is 17 so a rose could be seven and a pedal could be five.
ReplyDelete-John Sharkey Mod 7
In mod 7, Mr. Crane messed up and told us that there were two roses and one petal. We later found out that it was one rose and two petals. In class we rolled 6, 4, 3, 2, and 2. Out of all of these I think that one of them represents one rose and two petals and I think it is number 3. Number three has one rose (the dot in the middle) and two roses (the dots on the outside). All the other numbers have different number of petals and roses. I came up with this because petals come outside of roses so the outside dots might the petals and the middle ones, roses.
ReplyDelete-Neil Patel Mod 7
In my class we have come up with rolls such as 6,6,3,1 and 1 and say 6,6,4,1 and 1. Those two allow us to compare but not to the extent to prove your theory is the right one. I would like a roll of all of the same number whichever the number be. I believe this would help in verifying our theory's and not just keep assuming we are right.
ReplyDelete-Rachel Kelley (mod 9)
In my class, we had a roll of 6,4,3,2,and 2. There was one rose and two petals, and I think that all odd numbers represent the roses and petals. The one dot in the middle of the 3 and 5 is the rose, and the dots around it are the petals. I chose the roll because that was the only roll we had.
ReplyDeleteFor the mod 7 homework, it has something called Quest F.L. Do we have to do anything about it today.
ReplyDeleteIn mod 9, we chose to observe roll 1 and roll 3 because they were so similar. roll 1- 6, 4, 6, 1, 1, with 2 roses and 0 petals. roll 3- 6, 6, 1, 1, 3 with 3 roses and 2 petals. We concluded that because there is only one difference in each roll (the dice 3 and 4) that die 3 must be worth 1 rose and 2 petals.
ReplyDelete-Shea Scannell (mod 9)
Our roll we used was 64322 for Mod 7. There was one rose and two pedals. At first I was unsure where this came from, so I tried writing out each dot as suppose to, say, the number "2". That's when the answer hit me. The rose is a dot in the center of the die, found on rolls 1, 3, and 5. The surrounding dots on these odd numbers were pedals. 1 has 0 pedals, 3 has 2 pedals, and 5 has 4 pedals. When added up they equaled the amount initially given. I chose this roll because I wanted to see how changing the last position would affect the amount of roses and pedals. Comparing these two rolls helped me reach the solution.
ReplyDelete-John M Mod 7
For our class, there were two distinct rolls that stood out to our group as rolls to be discussed. Between these two rolls (3 & 4), there was only a difference of one number (2 to 3) so it was easy to analyze these two rolls. From these rolls, it can be determined that 3 is in fact a rose with two petals (I am not stating the rule!). To determine the roll I would like to see one of the numbers other than the 3 replaced. Hopefully it would create a variation with petals and roses. From that variation, we might be able to determine an ultimate rule by look at the aspects of each numerical variation and the variation between the number of petals and roses.
ReplyDelete~ Connor Desmond, Mod Nine
Can we use any of our old rolls from yesterday also?
ReplyDelete-Madison Hull Mod 7
My phone and computer can't type long for some reason on the blog but, i hace my comparisons in my notebook. Dan N mod 7
ReplyDeleteCan we use any roles we've had so far?
ReplyDeleteMatt Dorner Mod 7
No.................... Only the ones we rolled on Tuesday I believe
DeleteOne of the rolls we had in our class was, 2,3,3,6,6. Another was, 1,1,4,6,6. I compared these two rolls because they both had 2 roses, yet the first had 4 petals and the latter had 0 petals. I knew there had to be similarities between these two rolls because they had the same number of roses. I also noticed that their totals were different, 20 and 18. I deducted that the total had nothing to do with the number of roses because the totals were different and they needed to be the same to be similarities. The "dream" roll I would like to see is all 2s, 4s, and 6s. Then all 2s, all 4s, and all 6s separately. I would compare these because in our class we came up with a theory that maybe the even numbers don't affect the outcome of the number of petals and roses. However, we can't be sure until we test this theory.
ReplyDelete-Sydney Portock Mod 4
Do you have any other theories about how to find the petals and roses?
Delete~Emily Mack
We rolled 2,2,2,6,6 and 2,2,2,5,5. I chose to compare these because they are similar in many ways. They both have three 2s and 2 of another number. The first roll had 0 roses and 0 petals and the second one had 2 roses and 8 petals. This is another reason why I chose these rolls. Since there were 0 roses and petals with the first one, I am going to assume that twos and sixes have nothing to do with it. I can also assume that fives do have something to do with it. After further analyzing, I have come up with a theory that I tested to be true so far. However, I am not going to post it in case someone hasn't figured anything out yet, and so I can test some more rolls to prove me either right or wrong. I would like to see either all twos or all sixes so I can prove that my theory of the twos and sixes can be proven to be correct or wrong.
ReplyDelete~Emily Mack Mod 7
On the calander. What is F.L?
ReplyDeleteBrooke Wallace Mod 7